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間眅埶AV Presents: Mariana Mazzucato

2021, Series Munro Lectures, Economy, Future of Work

This lecture is presented with support from the BMO Lecture Series and John M. Munro Lecture endowments.

Mariana Mazzucato is one of the most influentialand for some, the economists in the world.

In her latest book, Mission Economy: A Moonshot Guide to Changing Capitalism, Mazzucato argues that capitalism is stuck. Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, it had no answers to a host of problems, including disease, inequality, the digital divide and, perhaps most concerningly, the environmental crisis. Mazzucato argues that governments and other public sector institutions must play a critical rolein partnership with the private sector and engaged citizensin leading missions to tackle the grand challenges of our times.

A Professor in the Economics of Innovation and Public Value at University College London (UCL) and a 2020 間眅埶AV honorary degree recipient, Mazzucato advises policymakers around the world on innovation-led, inclusive and sustainable growth. She and her team at UCLs Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose (IIPP) have been hired by the Government of British Columbia to advise on a long-term economic plan that will steer the province through the post-pandemic era.

Mazzucato will challenge us to reconceptualize value and think about how mission-oriented innovation could contribute to British Columbias unique economic context. The lecture will be followed by a conversation and audience Q&A moderated by Stephanie Bertels, Director of 間眅埶AV Beedies Centre for Corporate Governance and Sustainability. 

This lecture is co-produced by 間眅埶AV Public Square and the 間眅埶AV Centre for Corporate Governance and Sustainability.

Wed, 20 Oct 2021

8:30 a.m. (Vancouver)
11:30 a.m. (Toronto)
4:30 p.m. (London)

Online Event

Closed captioning in English will be available at this event.

About the Munro Lecture

The Munro Lecture is named after Jock Munro, an economist who served, with distinction, as 間眅埶AVs Vice-President, Academic.

Speaker

Mariana Mazzucato

 (Ph.D.) is Professor in the Economics of Innovation and Public Value at University College London (UCL), where she is Founding Director of the UCL  (IIP). She is winner of international prizes including the , the 2019 and 2018 . She was named as one of the '' by The New Republic,  in 2020 by Fast Company, and  by WIRED.

She is the author of three highly-acclaimed books:  (2013),  (2018) and the newly released,  (2021).

She advises policymakers around the world on innovation-led inclusive and sustainable growth. Her current roles include being Chair of the World Health Organizations Economic Council on Health for All and a member of the South African Presidents Economic Advisory Council, the Scottish Governments Council of Economic Advisors, and the United Nations High-level Advisory Board (HLAB) on Economic and Social Affairs, among others.

Moderator

Dr. Stephanie Bertels

Dr. Stephanie Bertels is the VanDusen Professor of Sustainability and the Director of the Centre for Corporate Governance and Sustainability at 間眅埶AV's Beedie School of Business. Stephanie is also the founder of the , a public-benefit research collaborative that develops practical tools to help companies embed social and environmental factors across their operations and decision-making. She regularly advises global companies and their boards on issues related to strategy, governance, and environmental and social sustainability.

Event Summary

The economy got you down? Mariana Mazzucato is on a mission to change that.

By 
間眅埶AV Resource and Environmental Management student and  researcher

If weve learnt anything during the upheaval and disruption caused by the pandemic, its that things around here are changing. Normal is a relic of the past; the time for transformation is now.

The climate is changing at a frightful pace, with , drought, and wildfires last summer and more unprecedented climate impacts looming on the horizon. Nature is changing, with biodiversity loss worldwide threatening the sixth mass extinction, and half of monitored wildlife species in Canada . Society is changing, with equity, diversity and inclusion emerging as key priorities for institutions like 間眅埶AV as Indigenous and Black communities continue to call out the ugly truths of Canadas history and the ongoing legacies of colonialism and . 

The question is, how is the economy changing? Or better yet, how does the economy need to change to advancerather than underminesocio-ecological wellbeing?

You will probably agree that the old economy, the one that prioritized profit at the expense of ecosystems and people, is not working. In fact, the old economy is the problemthe root cause of the climate, biodiversity, and inequality crises facing us today. But what if someone told you that the economy can also be the solution to these crises? 

Well, that someone is Mariana Mazzucato and that solution is a mission economy.

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On October 20, 2021, 間眅埶AVs Stephanie Bertels, VanDusen Professor of Sustainability and Director of the Centre for Corporate Governance and Sustainability at the Beedie School of Business, moderated a virtual conversation with Mariana Mazzucato on what is needed to create a new economy that puts people and the planet first. Mazzucato, Professor in the Economics of Innovation and Public Value and Founding Director of the Institute for Innovation and Public Purpose at University College London, advises policymakers worldwide on innovation-based inclusive and sustainable growth. Recently, B.C. joined Mazzucatos mission when the  to inform B.C.s post-pandemic economic recovery plans.

Mazzucato didnt dwell long on the problem, preferring instead to dive into the solutions. Nonetheless, she laid the foundation for the discussion by illustrating key shortcomings of the current economic system. She highlighted three facts: 

  • 56 per cent of G20 countries pandemic recovery funds were given to fossil energy projects;
  • 80 per cent of the financial sector goes to financing itself and not the real economy; and
  • shareholder profits are at a record high while inequality and polarization soar.

The current shareholder primacy model leaves governments responding with market fixes and band-aid solutions while society lurches from crisis to crisis.

Instead, Mazzucato advocates for a purpose-led economic transition that builds resilience by investing in communities and putting . Because the economy is an outcome of societys decisions, she calls for better societal decisions that set the economy in the direction of resilience, sustainability, and equity. Doing so requires us to adopt missions to address the grand challenges of our time. This is the mission economy.

Youre not alone if youre wondering what Mazzucatos mission economy would look like in practice, and how we can get there. During the event, the Zoom chat was alive with questions, critiques, and words of caution. Mazzucato provided some answers and participants weighed in with others.

First and foremost, governments have a crucial role to play in a mission economy. In shifting from a market-fixing to a market-shaping role, the entrepreneurial state can build the new economy with common good as the common goal. For Mazzucato, highlights of the entrepreneurial state in a mission economy include: 

  • big, bold policies and investments to address socio-ecological challengesframed as missions;
  • mobilization of cross-sectoral collaboration and innovation to advance those missions;
  • public spending and procurement with sustainability conditionalities attached;
  • internal experimentation and capacity-building for government leaders; and
  • co-definition of value and co-creation of sustainability solutions with users.

Folks in the chat added other levers for advancing public purpose, including a global corporate profit cap; growth in the caring, sharing, and circular economies; and deconstruction of hierarchical power structures in governments and corporations that undermine collaborative pursuit of shared goals. 

To illustrate her vision, Mazzucato shared two prominent examples of entrepreneurial, mission-oriented policy in action.

First, over 70 years ago, NASA invoked a no excess profits clause to collaborate with the private sector to produce space technology needed to get to the moon in a generation. From this moonshot mission, we can glean the importance of public-private partnerships that centre purpose in driving experimentation, innovation, and inspiration towards a common goal.

Electric car maker Tesla also tapped into government incentives (over $5 billion USD) to fuel its growthwhich could have generated significant public wealth if conditionalities had been attached to those incentives. The Tesla example demonstrates the value of government investment in innovation and R&D, but also the need for governments to intervene to prevent the capitalistic default of socialized risks and privatized rewards. 

The audience made clear that the notion of a purpose economy, of prioritizing people and planet, is not new to Indigenous peoples, however. Indigenous economies are rooted in reciprocity, relationality, and regeneration. As one audience participant pointed out in the chat, wealth comes not from money but from Indigenous peoples connections to kin, land, culture, ways of knowing and being, all living things, spirit, ancestors, and so much more. Therefore, transforming the economy requires not just redistributing profits but also redefining value and reinvesting in relationships, including with the Earth and her original stewards. 

Ultimately, the missions needed to accelerate the transition to a purpose-led economy must come from the ground up, not from NASA, Tesla, or a London-based economista point Mazzucato herself emphasized. As , it wont just get hotter, but meaner, if we treat climate change and other socio-ecological crises with technocratic and bureaucratic fixes. Instead, said one audience participant, solutions have to deal with inherent power imbalances embedded in the old economy that prevent socio-ecological wellbeing. In the B.C. context, Indigenous Nations are rights-holders with knowledge, worldviews, and relations to the Earth that must be central to the economic transition to advance reconciliation between people and the land. 

While a bold plan like Mazzucatos to disrupt the status quo will inevitably generate controversy, participants engagement is proof that everyone sees a place for themselves in the purpose economy transition; its a mission we can all rally behind. As one participant highlighted, unlocking the imagination needed to design creative solutions for a future where people and the planet can thrive in harmony requires true plurality of lived experience. For a mission economy to put society first, everyone must be part of co-imagining, co-creating, and co-implementing it. 間眅埶AVs conversation with Mazzucato got us off to a strong start.

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